Gordon's Progress

Posted: 9/16/2006 8:48:31 PM
DiggyDog

From: Jax, FL

Joined: 2/14/2005

This is not quote what you had in mind, Gordon, but have you heard of the Axon 100 From Blue Chip technologies? I believe it has CV cabability.

It also can convert any mono sound signal to MIDI by simply plugging in a 1/4 inch jack..

It is on my wish list.
Posted: 9/16/2006 9:25:03 PM
GordonC

From: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, UK

Joined: 10/5/2005

Fair point about the position of the synth. OK - that's separate. And so are the two antenna. The pitch is a 2 metre tall stick. (I love the theremin in the video on youTube of Lydia Kavina - that has an outrageously tall pitch antenna.) The volume is an upside-down L. Each has a tuning button and LED, like on the TVox volume control. Press the button, put you hand where max volume will be, light goes on, done. So much neater than a knob.

I suspect you are right about the Doepfer Theremin CV source. I have written to them enquiring. I was a bit surprised that a description of the characteristics of the antenna was not provided on the site. It is otherwise very detailed in its descriptions of modules.

Also I don't see a module that heterodynes two high frequency signals to create the characteristic almost but not exactly a sine wave that would be a requirement for me. But for the sake of a gedankenexperiment we can assume that we have a good theremin oscillator module, and two usable antenna with CV outputs. That, and a voltage controlled amplifier makes a good theremin.

I get what a modular synth is. It's a set of building blocks for making electronic instruments. Join them up one way, and you've got a theremin. Join them up another and you've got a trautonium. (Looks like they've done a really good job on creating the components for a trautonium, incidentally. Shame they didn't get quite so excited about the theremin. Maybe when I eventually meet the guy from theremin.co.uk I shall have to talk to him about eurorack mounted theremin modules and see if he gets excited.) Join them up a third way and you've got an instrument no-one ever imagined before.

Incidentally, it's a bit mad the way they've done it though - fixing the positions of the components and making you cover them in spaghetti. As a kid I had a kit of digital components, and gates, or gates, inverters etc, each encased in a little box. You arranged them in the order you wanted, and clicked them together. Occasionally a bit of wire was required, but mostly just the click connectors sufficed - it was a lot tidier, and most importantly it looked like the circuit diagram - so what it was doing was immediately apparent just by looking at it. That is a better way of organising things.

One key feature is that other components can be added into any part of this circuit, not just at the output stage. In other words, the pitch, volume and timbre can be processed separately, which is something I can understand. It's a bit like being able to deal with hue, luminosity and saturation in photoshop, except there's more to timbre than there is to saturation. The point is it separates a complicated signal into three simpler and more manageable parts.

I don't follow the very technical descriptions of many of the modules entirely, so instead I shall be considering what I would want to do at different stages, based on my understanding that analogue circuits can do some interesting maths, and that I can also gate things, so Boolean logic can also be applied. Then once I've figured out what I might want to do, I'll go and see if the corresponding modules exist.
Posted: 9/17/2006 4:04:24 AM
GordonC

From: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, UK

Joined: 10/5/2005

Hi Diggy - you posted while I was composing. Have you heard of the The MCV1a Theremin MIDI/CV Interface from theremin.co.uk (http://theremin.co.uk)? That's on my wish list, just after an etherwave (or an elysian from the same website subject to my having heard it play) and just before a modular synth.

:-)

So here's a few ideas for what to do with a modular theremin, starting with the most trivial - a pitch preview. Take an audio signal from after the oscillator module and before the CV controlled amplifier.

A polyphonic theremin - feed the pitch CV to several oscillators, adding different fixed amounts to each pitch feed to give harmonically related notes. Use pedals and foot switches to control which chords are generated. (And/or sit on a stool with one or two pressure sensitive pads in the seat. Also useful to create an electronic whoopee cushion!)

Switch out the theremin oscillator to give a different timbre. Or slide smoothly between two timbres with a pedal, or a toe-operated ribbon controller.

Sample and hold the first note of each bar and drop the pitch a couple of octaves for a bass line. Add in an arpeggiator for a walking bass line (and call it the auto-Pammy!)

Quantise the pitch for an air-harp. I note the quantiser module will generate a trigger signal that can be fed into an envelope generator for shaping notes.

I believe analogue circuits can do calculus. Heck, clockwork can do calculus is the exhibits in the Science Museum are to be believed. So integrate the pitch signal to differentiate between notes and glisses and process each differently. Add this to the air harp to create a theremin that glisses smoothly and does pitch correction on static notes.

Or auto-dip the volume during transitions between notes to minimise glissing. (The Pringliser.)

Use low frequency oscillators on the CV signals to simulate frothatrills and twangulators.

Create an pitch antenna with perfect linearity by mapping the response curve of a less than perfect antenna onto an idealised response curve.

Here's a slightly whacky idea. Take a copy of the pitch and volume CVs, delay the pitch by one bar and the volume by two bars to create a second, musically related voice automatically.

Well, these all sound fairly interesting and mostly quite sensible, and I haven't even thought about feedback loops yet...

Oh, and I note they have a ring mod module. Actually I spot spotted that first of all, because it was Man From Uranus that set me on this track with a posting he made on the White Label Records forum. (Hey - I share a label with MFU - for me that is so cool.) I paraphrase... No instrument loves ring mods better than the theremin. Theremin plus ring mod equals instant radiophonic workshop.


Posted: 9/17/2006 6:54:07 PM
DiggyDog

From: Jax, FL

Joined: 2/14/2005

Gordon, I just went to their website from the Halloween thread and the MCV1a looks great.

I can't wait to get my habds on one.
Posted: 9/17/2006 8:03:21 PM
GordonC

From: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, UK

Joined: 10/5/2005

You might want to wait a little bit.

The chap who makes than, Jake Rothman, is on my list for Hands Off 2007. I'll be asking him to talk about and demonstrate it.

I heard a lot of good things about Jake when I was jamming with Susie and Bruce (ooh, I'm turning into a lovie, eek!) and while I don't know much about midi the specs sound very good. But - I've not found any reviews or sound clips. Colour me cautious, but it's not a cheap piece of kit to buy on the assumption that it lives up to the specs.

Posted: 9/18/2006 10:36:57 AM
DiggyDog

From: Jax, FL

Joined: 2/14/2005

I agree. It is better to wait and see if it lives up to it's expectations.

Also, getting me to part with much of my hard-earned money is no easy task.

Posted: 9/18/2006 10:37:00 AM
DiggyDog

From: Jax, FL

Joined: 2/14/2005

I agree. It is better to wait and see if it lives up to its promises.

Also, getting me to part with much of my hard-earned money is no easy task.

Posted: 9/18/2006 4:23:31 PM
GordonC

From: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, UK

Joined: 10/5/2005

Well, Herr Doepfer has replied to my enquiry. He informs me that the Doepfer theremin module has a range of 30cm and is very non-linear, as are all theremins.

(This observation should perhaps be taken in context. Much as I try to avoid cultural stereotyping whenever possible, I would describe the Doepfer website as a veritable paragon of German precision and rigour. Linearity is a technical term, and I suspect its exact meaning in electronics may differ from its more casual usage by theremin players to describe the characteristics of a pitch antenna.)

Posted: 9/19/2006 2:57:57 AM
GordonC

From: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, UK

Joined: 10/5/2005

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Now I be off to find me a buxom wench or two for a spot of rowdy carousing. Yarrr.

"Oh, a life on the etherwave,
be the only life for me..."




Brief note. Have renamed Feersum Endjinn. It's now Void Ship. And if you don't know what one of those is, where it travels or what it contains, I guess you haven't seen the new Doctor Who season 2 finale yet. Some things are worse than pirates.

Posted: 9/19/2006 6:37:40 AM
Edweird

From: Ypsilanti, MI, USA

Joined: 9/29/2005

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