theremini editing presets by midi

Posted: 2/9/2015 4:09:27 AM
Gary Honis

From: Sugarloaf, PA

Joined: 10/17/2014

I checked these CC#90 values for waveforms:

1-9, 13-18, 21,26, 27, 43, 51, 60, 73, 74, 86-89, 93-97, 101, 103, 108, 109, 112 & 124-127.

I used the software Audacity to record the waveforms for the above values, with the wave table scan rate, scan amount and scan position controls all set to 0. All of the waveforms are posted here:

http://GaryHonis.com/ThereminiWaveforms/ThereminiWaveforms.html

Comparing the waveforms visually and listening to them, besides the Theremini's standard seven waveforms, there are 12 unique other Waveforms. Those 12 waveforms are listed below as values for the CC#90 command:

7, 8, 9, 13, 14, 17, 18, 86, 87, 89, 93 & 101

I haven't had the problem of the flipping LCD display.

Gary

Posted: 2/9/2015 4:29:53 AM
xtheremin8

From: züriCH

Joined: 3/15/2014

@christina:welcome in the same boat. yes, call moog, get that sysex file off them. or i can send it, if it takes them ages. if you followed that loong theremini thread, you might have noticed why it's called a 'half baked baguette' by reasons. ;-) calibration of the theremini is a bit a back and forth experience. but it is one routine you have to get used to.  it's basic is quite explained in the manual and in the addendum pdf is some more information also about through-zero. through-zero is the equivalent to the here around better known zero-beat zone.: the pitch goes lower from the antenna towards you and stops and then rises again. this zone can be somewhere before, a bit before or even behind you. (a nice zone by the way to pick up artifacts on the theremini.) some videos explain very good, how a theremin should be set up properly. works also for thereminis.

@gary, wow, that was. quick, thanks. regarding your no-issues: lucky you! asfaik,some units do some don't. :(

Posted: 2/9/2015 7:21:10 PM
Gary Honis

From: Sugarloaf, PA

Joined: 10/17/2014

As a test, I transferred all extra 12 waveforms (CC#90 command values of 7,8,9,13,14,17,18,86,87,89,93 & 101) to the Theremini for the RCA Theremin preset that Thomas Grillo created.  I didn't change any of the other parameters like wavetable scan rate, scan amount or scan position. I did make one change for value 7, and for that preset all I did was increase the volume of the preset.  I made a new library "ThereminRCA14Waves.theremini" that has Thomas's original RCA Theremin preset as the first entry, followed by the waveform "Etherwave" used instead of "Animoog 1", followed by the extra 12 waveforms that are named by the values of the CC#90 command.  If you switch between the 14 presets, you can hear the effect of changing the waveforms for Thomas's preset only.  You can download the "ThereminRCA14Waves.theremini" library file here:

http://GaryHonis.com/ThereminiWaveforms/ThereminiWaveforms.html#12waves

I find that for these presets, the "scan position" control has the most effect.

I discussed the extra 12 waveforms with Moog and I was told that there are only 3 new wavetables (values 7, 8 & 9), not 12.  They were added just prior to release of the latest firmware update (v1.1.0) and planned presets using them were not ready for the editor release.   Moog warned about trying to use any values greater than those three, because of unpredictable results and their use is not recommended.

Gary

 

Posted: 2/9/2015 7:39:05 PM
xtheremin8

From: züriCH

Joined: 3/15/2014

@gary, thanks for filtering out the useless waves and for the mild words of warning. 

Posted: 2/13/2015 7:43:45 PM
xtheremin8

From: züriCH

Joined: 3/15/2014

ok, its been a while since my last post, but there is also my last part of that triptych-on-midi-made-easy.

this one is about building a customized midi-controller surface. with those midi-applications, and some free time, it can be a funtasmagoria! (well mostly in fact sometimes it's all but pure hard work and not only funfunfun) :-)

making your own controller surface is easy as abc spelled backwards. so let’s finally dress it up a bit by midi.

hope you’ve been already a bit creative and had some fun on the ipad anyway and with those apps, „faders“ or „midiSequencer“ too. the latter goes up to over 1000bpm!  but sure you missed some labeling of controllers, and those pre-given names don’t match, all those confusing cc#…there are quite some apps around to create your own controller surface. prices are around some or up to thousand! $$$.

i like „touchOSC“,  one edits the surface on a computer, and loads very easy onto the ipad/iphone. a bit limited on the functions, but works and looks very nice. especially a useful multi-button surface for wave-selection can be made easily.

finally, i used : „TB midi Stuff“. does not come free, but still very low priced, for what it’s able a real bargain. one can edit sliders, knobs and all twiddel-dees ,all in the app and a quite easy to handle editor. may it finally look like touchosc or moog vintage synth, it’s up to you.

if one has deeper knowledge of midi, sysex etc. i think it would be possible to build a editor like the one from moog with displays,leds, knobs.. whatever. i made some basic surfaces for my own amusement, not the best and a bit over-colored maybe, to try it out and i have to say: they work as they should. like „faders“, but with the labels i like, and much much more sliders on one page. some send only limited values, like for the filter. on my surface, the sliders just send, so they don’t  show the actual value of the theremini. it’s still work in progress, putting all on some logic, ergonomic place and setting things up, needs some efforts and time, but i’ve got my own controller!

as mentioned in a earlier post, storing presets into the official editor can be done like for renaming presets or just for backup reasons, but a warning: some sounds get stored not like you expect they might.: if you store one with some easter-egg features into the editor, switch then on the theremini to another preset and then try the easter-egged one off the library, they might sound different. also renaming and quick store can reset the sounds to the official version. don’t put all the easter-eggs in one basket,anyway. meaning: some creations can only get stored in the theremini. so name them before you experiment.

whatever, with midi and some experimentation, one can squeeze blubbery bleeps out of this device, not available in some theremins. as ever: mind the ears on higher frequencies.

 fertig. Edit, well a tiny one : below left is  made with toucOsc , the others with tbmidi stuff.

touchOSC  therephish 

pictures there.sorry for that.

 

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