Moog Theremini!

Posted: 2/12/2014 10:19:12 AM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

OT

Thanks Gordon ;-)

I spent a lovely hour with my youngest child (Enya) yesterday, looking on-line at things she was facinated bye.. She had been talking about these amazing creatures "from the abyss" she had seen, and I thought they were some fantasy / sci-fi things (or Pokemon or the like) but it turned out to be deep sea creatures..

I had never seen the blobfish before - she loves them, thinks they look cute.. But she cannot look at the angler fish, thinks its the ugliest creature on the planet (perhaps because one nearly ate Nemo ;-) .. I do tend to agree with her though..

One if my older children qualified a couple of years ago in oceanography - Enya wants to go the same direction, but blue-ringed octopus and angler fish are things she has told me that she wants to avoid!  ;-) (strangely, sharks dont seem to worry her..)

Posted: 2/12/2014 3:34:00 PM
Amethyste

From: In between the Pitch and Volume hand ~ New England

Joined: 12/17/2010

I am kind of taken by this cute little Mexican Axolotl Salamander!!

 

Posted: 2/12/2014 3:53:24 PM
GordonC

From: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, UK

Joined: 10/5/2005

The world is full of the most extraordinary and exquisite creatures, but we ought to be serious for a moment and contemplate the possible ramifications of combining the mystical energies of the theremin with dough based food products.

Of course, the media are trying to pass this "Night of the Living Bread" incident as unrelated, but after seeing the effect on fish of ingesting thereminis, and considering Theremin's interest in reanimation, I think we know better...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-26138614

 

Posted: 2/12/2014 6:50:40 PM
bobbo924

From: Central Florida

Joined: 6/5/2009

"This is what is wrong with autotuning a theremin (for a classical thereminist) - the pitch field is unpredictable enough already, with pitch correction on you lose the direct correlation between hand position and pitch that you rely on. Say you are playing a C. You do not know if you are 49 cents sharp or 49 cents flat, because it sounds in tune. So a tiny movement could abruptly and unexpectedly cause the instrument to jump to a different note if you are unknowingly close to the boundary between two notes. (Or will pitch preview be uncorrected? Being out of tune would sound awful, hearing both the untuned preview and the corrected pitch through the amp. My guess is you wouldn't be able to tell if you were sharp or flat.)"  - GordonC

Pitch correction in other systems sometimes has a time threshold, a speed at which correction occurs. It might also be possible to open pitch variation so that, once locked in, anything less than a semitone, for example, would be freely variable for vibrato or even intonational adjustment. 

On another note, no mention in the press so far of pitch preview, at least none I've seen. Anyone else?

Posted: 2/13/2014 12:08:40 AM
GordonC

From: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, UK

Joined: 10/5/2005

You are quite right, I am assuming a very simple pitch correction algorithm. Possibly I have drawn inaccurate inferences from the videos etc. but that is the impression I got.

Posted: 2/13/2014 12:11:03 AM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

"I am kind of taken by this cute little Mexican Axolotl Salamander!!"

Awww..Thanks for that, Amey! - this goes to my tablet - Enya will love it! ;-)

Fred.

Posted: 2/13/2014 12:14:18 AM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

"....and considering Theremin's interest in reanimation.." - GordonC

ROFLMAO!!!

I wonder if theyl find Lennin in that skip ?  ;-)

Posted: 2/13/2014 9:00:12 AM
RoyP

From: Scotland

Joined: 9/27/2012

The world is full of the most extraordinary and exquisite creatures, but we ought to be serious for a moment and contemplate the possible ramifications of combining the mystical energies of the theremin with dough based food products.

Of course, the media are trying to pass this "Night of the Living Bread" incident as unrelated, but after seeing the effect on fish of ingesting thereminis, and considering Theremin's interest in reanimation, I think we know better...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-26138614

 

Could only happen in Leith!

:-)

Posted: 2/13/2014 12:04:35 PM
coalport

From: Canada

Joined: 8/1/2008

Gordon wrote: "This is what is wrong with autotuning a theremin (for a classical thereminist) - ........"

 

 

Excellent description and definition of the problem. I have saved this in my permanent "theremin/miscellaneous" file for future reference. The late Dr. Bob tried to overcome some of these difficulties with the PITCH SMART MODE on his Ethervox theremin but, as clever as it was, it simply wasn't practical. As much as I hate to say it, it was typical of the ideas of theremin tekkies who have little understanding of the needs and limitations of the musician.

 

People who do not play any other instrument but the theremin often try to force the instrument to do things it is not suited for or designed to do. As a multi-instrumentalist I often ask myself, as I'm struggling along trying to play something on the theremin, if the theremin is the best instrument on which to be playing the piece in the first place. 

 

The answer is often a resounding NO!

 

Posted: 2/13/2014 12:09:43 PM
Thierry

From: Colmar, France

Joined: 12/31/2007

coalport wrote: "People who do not play any other instrument but the theremin often try to force the instrument to do things it is not suited for or designed to do. As a multi-instrumentalist I often ask myself, as I'm struggling along trying to play something on the theremin, if the theremin is the best instrument on which to be playing the piece in the first place. The answer is often a resounding NO!"

Nu, that's a statement which is worth being saved for the et(h)ernity!

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